1 00:00:02,470 --> 00:00:09,600 I guess on a personal level I was 2 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:09,610 I guess on a personal level I was 3 00:00:09,610 --> 00:00:11,430 I guess on a personal level I was working for General Motors years ago and 4 00:00:11,430 --> 00:00:11,440 working for General Motors years ago and 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,040 working for General Motors years ago and I had my family on vacation I took my 6 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:14,050 I had my family on vacation I took my 7 00:00:14,050 --> 00:00:16,380 I had my family on vacation I took my kids to Disney World in Florida and we 8 00:00:16,380 --> 00:00:16,390 kids to Disney World in Florida and we 9 00:00:16,390 --> 00:00:17,880 kids to Disney World in Florida and we heard on the radio that there was going 10 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:17,890 heard on the radio that there was going 11 00:00:17,890 --> 00:00:19,950 heard on the radio that there was going to be a shuttle launch so we looked into 12 00:00:19,950 --> 00:00:19,960 to be a shuttle launch so we looked into 13 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:21,630 to be a shuttle launch so we looked into it and found out and we went down to the 14 00:00:21,630 --> 00:00:21,640 it and found out and we went down to the 15 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,730 it and found out and we went down to the beach and it was like going to a rock 16 00:00:23,730 --> 00:00:23,740 beach and it was like going to a rock 17 00:00:23,740 --> 00:00:25,589 beach and it was like going to a rock concert basically those were the days of 18 00:00:25,589 --> 00:00:25,599 concert basically those were the days of 19 00:00:25,599 --> 00:00:28,109 concert basically those were the days of people having boom boxes and everybody 20 00:00:28,109 --> 00:00:28,119 people having boom boxes and everybody 21 00:00:28,119 --> 00:00:31,169 people having boom boxes and everybody did the countdown on the beach and as it 22 00:00:31,169 --> 00:00:31,179 did the countdown on the beach and as it 23 00:00:31,179 --> 00:00:33,360 did the countdown on the beach and as it turned out it was the initial maiden 24 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:33,370 turned out it was the initial maiden 25 00:00:33,370 --> 00:00:37,200 turned out it was the initial maiden voyage of the Challenger and just a few 26 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:37,210 voyage of the Challenger and just a few 27 00:00:37,210 --> 00:00:38,910 voyage of the Challenger and just a few years later I was working down in 28 00:00:38,910 --> 00:00:38,920 years later I was working down in 29 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,720 years later I was working down in Florida working for Pratt Whitney and 30 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:41,730 Florida working for Pratt Whitney and 31 00:00:41,730 --> 00:00:44,550 Florida working for Pratt Whitney and unfortunately I did see the demise out 32 00:00:44,550 --> 00:00:44,560 unfortunately I did see the demise out 33 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,160 unfortunately I did see the demise out the window of the second store building 34 00:00:47,160 --> 00:00:47,170 the window of the second store building 35 00:00:47,170 --> 00:00:49,560 the window of the second store building with all my coworkers of the Challenger 36 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:49,570 with all my coworkers of the Challenger 37 00:00:49,570 --> 00:00:54,420 with all my coworkers of the Challenger disaster I would I was very remorseful 38 00:00:54,420 --> 00:00:54,430 disaster I would I was very remorseful 39 00:00:54,430 --> 00:00:57,900 disaster I would I was very remorseful to the whole situation and I guess 40 00:00:57,900 --> 00:00:57,910 to the whole situation and I guess 41 00:00:57,910 --> 00:01:00,090 to the whole situation and I guess that's the key key thing that keeps me 42 00:01:00,090 --> 00:01:00,100 that's the key key thing that keeps me 43 00:01:00,100 --> 00:01:03,780 that's the key key thing that keeps me driving I and in the passion of the 44 00:01:03,780 --> 00:01:03,790 driving I and in the passion of the 45 00:01:03,790 --> 00:01:10,460 driving I and in the passion of the shuttle program I'm getting goosebumps 46 00:01:10,460 --> 00:01:10,470 shuttle program I'm getting goosebumps 47 00:01:10,470 --> 00:01:13,830 shuttle program I'm getting goosebumps my first engine test was that canoga 48 00:01:13,830 --> 00:01:13,840 my first engine test was that canoga 49 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,820 my first engine test was that canoga park up on the up on the hill at santa 50 00:01:17,820 --> 00:01:17,830 park up on the up on the hill at santa 51 00:01:17,830 --> 00:01:22,500 park up on the up on the hill at santa susanna and the shockwaves that came off 52 00:01:22,500 --> 00:01:22,510 susanna and the shockwaves that came off 53 00:01:22,510 --> 00:01:25,080 susanna and the shockwaves that came off the engine the power that came off of 54 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:25,090 the engine the power that came off of 55 00:01:25,090 --> 00:01:27,620 the engine the power that came off of our ian was so amazing 56 00:01:27,620 --> 00:01:27,630 our ian was so amazing 57 00:01:27,630 --> 00:01:31,760 our ian was so amazing it just filled me with an excitement 58 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:31,770 it just filled me with an excitement 59 00:01:31,770 --> 00:01:34,910 it just filled me with an excitement that I can't even I can't even share 60 00:01:34,910 --> 00:01:34,920 that I can't even I can't even share 61 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,889 that I can't even I can't even share with you in words because you have to 62 00:01:36,889 --> 00:01:36,899 with you in words because you have to 63 00:01:36,899 --> 00:01:39,620 with you in words because you have to feel it and I felt that when I've been 64 00:01:39,620 --> 00:01:39,630 feel it and I felt that when I've been 65 00:01:39,630 --> 00:01:45,020 feel it and I felt that when I've been at every ssme launch and it's never 66 00:01:45,020 --> 00:01:45,030 at every ssme launch and it's never 67 00:01:45,030 --> 00:01:48,230 at every ssme launch and it's never changed I think it has a major effect on 68 00:01:48,230 --> 00:01:48,240 changed I think it has a major effect on 69 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,219 changed I think it has a major effect on on how you look at the job that you have 70 00:01:52,219 --> 00:01:52,229 on how you look at the job that you have 71 00:01:52,229 --> 00:01:54,649 on how you look at the job that you have to do I'm still filled with excitement 72 00:01:54,649 --> 00:01:54,659 to do I'm still filled with excitement 73 00:01:54,659 --> 00:01:57,590 to do I'm still filled with excitement and energy and that's what's important 74 00:01:57,590 --> 00:01:57,600 and energy and that's what's important 75 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,029 and energy and that's what's important here to support shuttle you have to be 76 00:02:01,029 --> 00:02:01,039 here to support shuttle you have to be 77 00:02:01,039 --> 00:02:04,070 here to support shuttle you have to be energized and you have to be motivated 78 00:02:04,070 --> 00:02:04,080 energized and you have to be motivated 79 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,199 energized and you have to be motivated to do that that job just the best that 80 00:02:06,199 --> 00:02:06,209 to do that that job just the best that 81 00:02:06,209 --> 00:02:12,259 to do that that job just the best that you very best you can one of the things 82 00:02:12,259 --> 00:02:12,269 you very best you can one of the things 83 00:02:12,269 --> 00:02:14,059 you very best you can one of the things that stand out in my mind when we first 84 00:02:14,059 --> 00:02:14,069 that stand out in my mind when we first 85 00:02:14,069 --> 00:02:18,650 that stand out in my mind when we first ran our fuel pumps the gases that went 86 00:02:18,650 --> 00:02:18,660 ran our fuel pumps the gases that went 87 00:02:18,660 --> 00:02:20,210 ran our fuel pumps the gases that went through the turbine was exhausted 88 00:02:20,210 --> 00:02:20,220 through the turbine was exhausted 89 00:02:20,220 --> 00:02:22,819 through the turbine was exhausted through a war fish that was ignited and 90 00:02:22,819 --> 00:02:22,829 through a war fish that was ignited and 91 00:02:22,829 --> 00:02:26,390 through a war fish that was ignited and put a big flame out decided a hot gas 92 00:02:26,390 --> 00:02:26,400 put a big flame out decided a hot gas 93 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,030 put a big flame out decided a hot gas manifold and in the hydrogen it was 94 00:02:29,030 --> 00:02:29,040 manifold and in the hydrogen it was 95 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,550 manifold and in the hydrogen it was pumped went up a stack and they actually 96 00:02:31,550 --> 00:02:31,560 pumped went up a stack and they actually 97 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,170 pumped went up a stack and they actually had to call a Palm Beach International 98 00:02:33,170 --> 00:02:33,180 had to call a Palm Beach International 99 00:02:33,180 --> 00:02:36,770 had to call a Palm Beach International Airport every time I ran and rerouted 100 00:02:36,770 --> 00:02:36,780 Airport every time I ran and rerouted 101 00:02:36,780 --> 00:02:39,800 Airport every time I ran and rerouted commercial traffic around the area when 102 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:39,810 commercial traffic around the area when 103 00:02:39,810 --> 00:02:41,360 commercial traffic around the area when we were going to do our runs and I was 104 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:41,370 we were going to do our runs and I was 105 00:02:41,370 --> 00:02:43,309 we were going to do our runs and I was pretty amazed about that that the the 106 00:02:43,309 --> 00:02:43,319 pretty amazed about that that the the 107 00:02:43,319 --> 00:02:45,740 pretty amazed about that that the the heat from the from the running could go 108 00:02:45,740 --> 00:02:45,750 heat from the from the running could go 109 00:02:45,750 --> 00:02:48,229 heat from the from the running could go that high to possibly interrupt a 110 00:02:48,229 --> 00:02:48,239 that high to possibly interrupt a 111 00:02:48,239 --> 00:02:50,860 that high to possibly interrupt a commercial flight 112 00:02:50,860 --> 00:02:50,870 113 00:02:50,870 --> 00:02:57,280 a group of us were at KSC and we had had 114 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:57,290 a group of us were at KSC and we had had 115 00:02:57,290 --> 00:02:59,860 a group of us were at KSC and we had had the good fortune to visit the Columbia 116 00:02:59,860 --> 00:02:59,870 the good fortune to visit the Columbia 117 00:02:59,870 --> 00:03:02,199 the good fortune to visit the Columbia room where they store recovered 118 00:03:02,199 --> 00:03:02,209 room where they store recovered 119 00:03:02,209 --> 00:03:04,920 room where they store recovered artifacts from the Columbia accident 120 00:03:04,920 --> 00:03:04,930 artifacts from the Columbia accident 121 00:03:04,930 --> 00:03:08,830 artifacts from the Columbia accident well our group was in the VA be waiting 122 00:03:08,830 --> 00:03:08,840 well our group was in the VA be waiting 123 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:10,869 well our group was in the VA be waiting on our tour guide to arrive and we were 124 00:03:10,869 --> 00:03:10,879 on our tour guide to arrive and we were 125 00:03:10,879 --> 00:03:12,910 on our tour guide to arrive and we were all just kind of standing around talking 126 00:03:12,910 --> 00:03:12,920 all just kind of standing around talking 127 00:03:12,920 --> 00:03:15,640 all just kind of standing around talking laughing and joking around in the mood 128 00:03:15,640 --> 00:03:15,650 laughing and joking around in the mood 129 00:03:15,650 --> 00:03:18,610 laughing and joking around in the mood was very light when our tour guide 130 00:03:18,610 --> 00:03:18,620 was very light when our tour guide 131 00:03:18,620 --> 00:03:21,520 was very light when our tour guide arrived and took us to the artifacts 132 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:21,530 arrived and took us to the artifacts 133 00:03:21,530 --> 00:03:25,030 arrived and took us to the artifacts room she opened the door and you could 134 00:03:25,030 --> 00:03:25,040 room she opened the door and you could 135 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,630 room she opened the door and you could have heard a pin drop as we saw the 136 00:03:28,630 --> 00:03:28,640 have heard a pin drop as we saw the 137 00:03:28,640 --> 00:03:33,849 have heard a pin drop as we saw the displays it was a very somber very quiet 138 00:03:33,849 --> 00:03:33,859 displays it was a very somber very quiet 139 00:03:33,859 --> 00:03:39,130 displays it was a very somber very quiet moment and I think the magnitude of the 140 00:03:39,130 --> 00:03:39,140 moment and I think the magnitude of the 141 00:03:39,140 --> 00:03:41,860 moment and I think the magnitude of the tragedy really sink in with all of us 142 00:03:41,860 --> 00:03:41,870 tragedy really sink in with all of us 143 00:03:41,870 --> 00:03:47,289 tragedy really sink in with all of us and I think you know together we've all 144 00:03:47,289 --> 00:03:47,299 and I think you know together we've all 145 00:03:47,299 --> 00:03:50,580 and I think you know together we've all done some wonderful awesome things 146 00:03:50,580 --> 00:03:50,590 done some wonderful awesome things 147 00:03:50,590 --> 00:03:53,349 done some wonderful awesome things working main engine and working on the 148 00:03:53,349 --> 00:03:53,359 working main engine and working on the 149 00:03:53,359 --> 00:03:55,449 working main engine and working on the space shuttle program and so we 150 00:03:55,449 --> 00:03:55,459 space shuttle program and so we 151 00:03:55,459 --> 00:03:57,970 space shuttle program and so we celebrate those things but at the same 152 00:03:57,970 --> 00:03:57,980 celebrate those things but at the same 153 00:03:57,980 --> 00:04:00,099 celebrate those things but at the same time we're very mindful of the 154 00:04:00,099 --> 00:04:00,109 time we're very mindful of the 155 00:04:00,109 --> 00:04:03,430 time we're very mindful of the sacrifices that some extremely 156 00:04:03,430 --> 00:04:03,440 sacrifices that some extremely 157 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,550 sacrifices that some extremely courageous people have made throughout 158 00:04:06,550 --> 00:04:06,560 courageous people have made throughout 159 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,309 courageous people have made throughout the entire history of NASA to get us 160 00:04:09,309 --> 00:04:09,319 the entire history of NASA to get us 161 00:04:09,319 --> 00:04:12,539 the entire history of NASA to get us where we are today and we will always 162 00:04:12,539 --> 00:04:12,549 where we are today and we will always 163 00:04:12,549 --> 00:04:22,510 where we are today and we will always remember and honor that I think the most 164 00:04:22,510 --> 00:04:22,520 remember and honor that I think the most 165 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,270 remember and honor that I think the most memorable time in my career working on 166 00:04:25,270 --> 00:04:25,280 memorable time in my career working on 167 00:04:25,280 --> 00:04:28,210 memorable time in my career working on SS army was in the early 90s when we had 168 00:04:28,210 --> 00:04:28,220 SS army was in the early 90s when we had 169 00:04:28,220 --> 00:04:31,930 SS army was in the early 90s when we had the on pad aborts that we had we had 170 00:04:31,930 --> 00:04:31,940 the on pad aborts that we had we had 171 00:04:31,940 --> 00:04:34,060 the on pad aborts that we had we had actually four of them within the span of 172 00:04:34,060 --> 00:04:34,070 actually four of them within the span of 173 00:04:34,070 --> 00:04:37,089 actually four of them within the span of two or three years and I had been an 174 00:04:37,089 --> 00:04:37,099 two or three years and I had been an 175 00:04:37,099 --> 00:04:38,710 two or three years and I had been an engineer at the company for four or five 176 00:04:38,710 --> 00:04:38,720 engineer at the company for four or five 177 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,750 engineer at the company for four or five years when those happen so I was just 178 00:04:40,750 --> 00:04:40,760 years when those happen so I was just 179 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,409 years when those happen so I was just getting my feet wet long hours and you 180 00:04:44,409 --> 00:04:44,419 getting my feet wet long hours and you 181 00:04:44,419 --> 00:04:47,770 getting my feet wet long hours and you spend a lot of time you learn a lot is 182 00:04:47,770 --> 00:04:47,780 spend a lot of time you learn a lot is 183 00:04:47,780 --> 00:04:50,620 spend a lot of time you learn a lot is what I'm trying to say and those 184 00:04:50,620 --> 00:04:50,630 what I'm trying to say and those 185 00:04:50,630 --> 00:04:53,050 what I'm trying to say and those experiences working for those aboard 186 00:04:53,050 --> 00:04:53,060 experiences working for those aboard 187 00:04:53,060 --> 00:04:55,990 experiences working for those aboard when the eyes of the world were on you 188 00:04:55,990 --> 00:04:56,000 when the eyes of the world were on you 189 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,519 when the eyes of the world were on you that's something that's pretty memorable 190 00:04:58,519 --> 00:04:58,529 that's something that's pretty memorable 191 00:04:58,529 --> 00:05:06,559 that's something that's pretty memorable me I came to ssme and them around 192 00:05:06,559 --> 00:05:06,569 me I came to ssme and them around 193 00:05:06,569 --> 00:05:10,129 me I came to ssme and them around December 2005 so the first launch that I 194 00:05:10,129 --> 00:05:10,139 December 2005 so the first launch that I 195 00:05:10,139 --> 00:05:14,089 December 2005 so the first launch that I saw working for ssme was in December 196 00:05:14,089 --> 00:05:14,099 saw working for ssme was in December 197 00:05:14,099 --> 00:05:18,139 saw working for ssme was in December 2006 my husband and I took vacation and 198 00:05:18,139 --> 00:05:18,149 2006 my husband and I took vacation and 199 00:05:18,149 --> 00:05:19,729 2006 my husband and I took vacation and took both of our mothers and a lot of 200 00:05:19,729 --> 00:05:19,739 took both of our mothers and a lot of 201 00:05:19,739 --> 00:05:21,529 took both of our mothers and a lot of our great nieces and nephews down for 202 00:05:21,529 --> 00:05:21,539 our great nieces and nephews down for 203 00:05:21,539 --> 00:05:23,749 our great nieces and nephews down for the launch so we were out in the 204 00:05:23,749 --> 00:05:23,759 the launch so we were out in the 205 00:05:23,759 --> 00:05:27,259 the launch so we were out in the causeway and it was a night launch oh it 206 00:05:27,259 --> 00:05:27,269 causeway and it was a night launch oh it 207 00:05:27,269 --> 00:05:31,279 causeway and it was a night launch oh it was fantastic beautiful and as as though 208 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:31,289 was fantastic beautiful and as as though 209 00:05:31,289 --> 00:05:33,229 was fantastic beautiful and as as though you know after the launch and you're 210 00:05:33,229 --> 00:05:33,239 you know after the launch and you're 211 00:05:33,239 --> 00:05:34,669 you know after the launch and you're watching it you're going to watch it as 212 00:05:34,669 --> 00:05:34,679 watching it you're going to watch it as 213 00:05:34,679 --> 00:05:37,399 watching it you're going to watch it as long as you can and it's so excited and 214 00:05:37,399 --> 00:05:37,409 long as you can and it's so excited and 215 00:05:37,409 --> 00:05:41,149 long as you can and it's so excited and so then the of the guy comes over the 216 00:05:41,149 --> 00:05:41,159 so then the of the guy comes over the 217 00:05:41,159 --> 00:05:43,299 so then the of the guy comes over the intercom and says three main engines 218 00:05:43,299 --> 00:05:43,309 intercom and says three main engines 219 00:05:43,309 --> 00:05:46,279 intercom and says three main engines operating nominal and I'm going boo boo 220 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:46,289 operating nominal and I'm going boo boo 221 00:05:46,289 --> 00:05:48,409 operating nominal and I'm going boo boo and then the launch goes out of sight 222 00:05:48,409 --> 00:05:48,419 and then the launch goes out of sight 223 00:05:48,419 --> 00:05:51,139 and then the launch goes out of sight and my great nephew came up to me and 224 00:05:51,139 --> 00:05:51,149 and my great nephew came up to me and 225 00:05:51,149 --> 00:05:52,879 and my great nephew came up to me and patted me on the shoulder and said good 226 00:05:52,879 --> 00:05:52,889 patted me on the shoulder and said good 227 00:05:52,889 --> 00:05:57,769 patted me on the shoulder and said good job Anna Lisa and you know to me just 228 00:05:57,769 --> 00:05:57,779 job Anna Lisa and you know to me just 229 00:05:57,779 --> 00:06:06,859 job Anna Lisa and you know to me just fantastic in the 80s we had a major 230 00:06:06,859 --> 00:06:06,869 fantastic in the 80s we had a major 231 00:06:06,869 --> 00:06:08,869 fantastic in the 80s we had a major engine incident we were supposed to fly 232 00:06:08,869 --> 00:06:08,879 engine incident we were supposed to fly 233 00:06:08,879 --> 00:06:12,259 engine incident we were supposed to fly nine days later and we literally worked 234 00:06:12,259 --> 00:06:12,269 nine days later and we literally worked 235 00:06:12,269 --> 00:06:14,509 nine days later and we literally worked around the clock to make sure that we 236 00:06:14,509 --> 00:06:14,519 around the clock to make sure that we 237 00:06:14,519 --> 00:06:16,399 around the clock to make sure that we could clear that engine and we had 238 00:06:16,399 --> 00:06:16,409 could clear that engine and we had 239 00:06:16,409 --> 00:06:18,139 could clear that engine and we had different failure scenarios that we were 240 00:06:18,139 --> 00:06:18,149 different failure scenarios that we were 241 00:06:18,149 --> 00:06:19,669 different failure scenarios that we were working we didn't know exactly what it 242 00:06:19,669 --> 00:06:19,679 working we didn't know exactly what it 243 00:06:19,679 --> 00:06:21,619 working we didn't know exactly what it was but we had to make sure for any of 244 00:06:21,619 --> 00:06:21,629 was but we had to make sure for any of 245 00:06:21,629 --> 00:06:23,029 was but we had to make sure for any of those failure scenarios that were 246 00:06:23,029 --> 00:06:23,039 those failure scenarios that were 247 00:06:23,039 --> 00:06:25,729 those failure scenarios that were possible that the next flight was not 248 00:06:25,729 --> 00:06:25,739 possible that the next flight was not 249 00:06:25,739 --> 00:06:28,249 possible that the next flight was not going to experience that same problem so 250 00:06:28,249 --> 00:06:28,259 going to experience that same problem so 251 00:06:28,259 --> 00:06:30,739 going to experience that same problem so that's one of those fire drill memories 252 00:06:30,739 --> 00:06:30,749 that's one of those fire drill memories 253 00:06:30,749 --> 00:06:33,559 that's one of those fire drill memories that you have the other memory is are 254 00:06:33,559 --> 00:06:33,569 that you have the other memory is are 255 00:06:33,569 --> 00:06:35,059 that you have the other memory is are just I love working with the folks 256 00:06:35,059 --> 00:06:35,069 just I love working with the folks 257 00:06:35,069 --> 00:06:37,759 just I love working with the folks around here you know just working with 258 00:06:37,759 --> 00:06:37,769 around here you know just working with 259 00:06:37,769 --> 00:06:40,039 around here you know just working with true rocket scientists you know people 260 00:06:40,039 --> 00:06:40,049 true rocket scientists you know people 261 00:06:40,049 --> 00:06:41,799 true rocket scientists you know people that are experts in their field 262 00:06:41,799 --> 00:06:41,809 that are experts in their field 263 00:06:41,809 --> 00:06:44,989 that are experts in their field passionate about what they do really 264 00:06:44,989 --> 00:06:44,999 passionate about what they do really 265 00:06:44,999 --> 00:06:47,329 passionate about what they do really dedicated to keeping astronauts safe we 266 00:06:47,329 --> 00:06:47,339 dedicated to keeping astronauts safe we 267 00:06:47,339 --> 00:06:50,209 dedicated to keeping astronauts safe we get to talk with astronauts and get to 268 00:06:50,209 --> 00:06:50,219 get to talk with astronauts and get to 269 00:06:50,219 --> 00:06:53,089 get to talk with astronauts and get to know them so that's just kind of a day 270 00:06:53,089 --> 00:06:53,099 know them so that's just kind of a day 271 00:06:53,099 --> 00:06:56,119 know them so that's just kind of a day to day pleasure to work here mm I folks 272 00:06:56,119 --> 00:06:56,129 to day pleasure to work here mm I folks 273 00:06:56,129 --> 00:06:59,760 to day pleasure to work here mm I folks we get to work with 274 00:06:59,760 --> 00:06:59,770 275 00:06:59,770 --> 00:07:04,469 I think the one of the saddest memories 276 00:07:04,469 --> 00:07:04,479 I think the one of the saddest memories 277 00:07:04,479 --> 00:07:06,809 I think the one of the saddest memories that I have is when we decided to move 278 00:07:06,809 --> 00:07:06,819 that I have is when we decided to move 279 00:07:06,819 --> 00:07:09,149 that I have is when we decided to move engine assembly out of canoga park it 280 00:07:09,149 --> 00:07:09,159 engine assembly out of canoga park it 281 00:07:09,159 --> 00:07:10,860 engine assembly out of canoga park it was a business decision at that time and 282 00:07:10,860 --> 00:07:10,870 was a business decision at that time and 283 00:07:10,870 --> 00:07:12,510 was a business decision at that time and it was a good decision to do it because 284 00:07:12,510 --> 00:07:12,520 it was a good decision to do it because 285 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:13,980 it was a good decision to do it because we weren't building that many more 286 00:07:13,980 --> 00:07:13,990 we weren't building that many more 287 00:07:13,990 --> 00:07:16,800 we weren't building that many more engines but one member we had is we took 288 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:16,810 engines but one member we had is we took 289 00:07:16,810 --> 00:07:18,119 engines but one member we had is we took a picture of it and we were all waving 290 00:07:18,119 --> 00:07:18,129 a picture of it and we were all waving 291 00:07:18,129 --> 00:07:20,969 a picture of it and we were all waving goodbye to the engine as it was the last 292 00:07:20,969 --> 00:07:20,979 goodbye to the engine as it was the last 293 00:07:20,979 --> 00:07:22,589 goodbye to the engine as it was the last engine that left the engine line so 294 00:07:22,589 --> 00:07:22,599 engine that left the engine line so 295 00:07:22,599 --> 00:07:25,379 engine that left the engine line so that's one of the sad memories that I 296 00:07:25,379 --> 00:07:25,389 that's one of the sad memories that I 297 00:07:25,389 --> 00:07:28,619 that's one of the sad memories that I had of the engine line but there's tons 298 00:07:28,619 --> 00:07:28,629 had of the engine line but there's tons 299 00:07:28,629 --> 00:07:30,240 had of the engine line but there's tons and tons of other good memories of 300 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:30,250 and tons of other good memories of 301 00:07:30,250 --> 00:07:33,180 and tons of other good memories of successful launches and great accolades 302 00:07:33,180 --> 00:07:33,190 successful launches and great accolades 303 00:07:33,190 --> 00:07:34,620 successful launches and great accolades for everyone that have done good things 304 00:07:34,620 --> 00:07:34,630 for everyone that have done good things 305 00:07:34,630 --> 00:07:37,379 for everyone that have done good things here at rocketdyne so there's a there's 306 00:07:37,379 --> 00:07:37,389 here at rocketdyne so there's a there's 307 00:07:37,389 --> 00:07:41,010 here at rocketdyne so there's a there's a whole archive of good memories across 308 00:07:41,010 --> 00:07:41,020 a whole archive of good memories across 309 00:07:41,020 --> 00:07:49,920 a whole archive of good memories across the board I had a recent experience that 310 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:49,930 the board I had a recent experience that 311 00:07:49,930 --> 00:07:51,540 the board I had a recent experience that I think is really pretty special to me 312 00:07:51,540 --> 00:07:51,550 I think is really pretty special to me 313 00:07:51,550 --> 00:07:53,580 I think is really pretty special to me it changed some of my perspective I took 314 00:07:53,580 --> 00:07:53,590 it changed some of my perspective I took 315 00:07:53,590 --> 00:07:56,430 it changed some of my perspective I took a class in ground operations for the 316 00:07:56,430 --> 00:07:56,440 a class in ground operations for the 317 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,860 a class in ground operations for the shuttle at KSC and course during this 318 00:07:58,860 --> 00:07:58,870 shuttle at KSC and course during this 319 00:07:58,870 --> 00:08:00,809 shuttle at KSC and course during this class they're talking about the whole 320 00:08:00,809 --> 00:08:00,819 class they're talking about the whole 321 00:08:00,819 --> 00:08:02,820 class they're talking about the whole flow from the day of shuttle lands and 322 00:08:02,820 --> 00:08:02,830 flow from the day of shuttle lands and 323 00:08:02,830 --> 00:08:04,830 flow from the day of shuttle lands and all the steps that they go through to 324 00:08:04,830 --> 00:08:04,840 all the steps that they go through to 325 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:06,870 all the steps that they go through to get it ready to launch again and they 326 00:08:06,870 --> 00:08:06,880 get it ready to launch again and they 327 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:08,939 get it ready to launch again and they have schedules literally down to 15 328 00:08:08,939 --> 00:08:08,949 have schedules literally down to 15 329 00:08:08,949 --> 00:08:10,770 have schedules literally down to 15 minute increments during the flow of 330 00:08:10,770 --> 00:08:10,780 minute increments during the flow of 331 00:08:10,780 --> 00:08:13,260 minute increments during the flow of everything that has to happen to that 332 00:08:13,260 --> 00:08:13,270 everything that has to happen to that 333 00:08:13,270 --> 00:08:15,719 everything that has to happen to that shuttle and in all of these flows 334 00:08:15,719 --> 00:08:15,729 shuttle and in all of these flows 335 00:08:15,729 --> 00:08:17,760 shuttle and in all of these flows there's just this little tiny part about 336 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:17,770 there's just this little tiny part about 337 00:08:17,770 --> 00:08:19,499 there's just this little tiny part about the ssme and it basically is a little 338 00:08:19,499 --> 00:08:19,509 the ssme and it basically is a little 339 00:08:19,509 --> 00:08:22,409 the ssme and it basically is a little black that says install ssme or remove 340 00:08:22,409 --> 00:08:22,419 black that says install ssme or remove 341 00:08:22,419 --> 00:08:24,659 black that says install ssme or remove ssme that kept thinking wait a minute 342 00:08:24,659 --> 00:08:24,669 ssme that kept thinking wait a minute 343 00:08:24,669 --> 00:08:25,920 ssme that kept thinking wait a minute we're like the most important thing on 344 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:25,930 we're like the most important thing on 345 00:08:25,930 --> 00:08:27,809 we're like the most important thing on the orbiter why are they only spending a 346 00:08:27,809 --> 00:08:27,819 the orbiter why are they only spending a 347 00:08:27,819 --> 00:08:29,519 the orbiter why are they only spending a couple little bars on all these 348 00:08:29,519 --> 00:08:29,529 couple little bars on all these 349 00:08:29,529 --> 00:08:31,860 couple little bars on all these flowcharts and after about three days of 350 00:08:31,860 --> 00:08:31,870 flowcharts and after about three days of 351 00:08:31,870 --> 00:08:34,350 flowcharts and after about three days of this I finally figured out you know why 352 00:08:34,350 --> 00:08:34,360 this I finally figured out you know why 353 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,149 this I finally figured out you know why we aren't showing up on that because we 354 00:08:36,149 --> 00:08:36,159 we aren't showing up on that because we 355 00:08:36,159 --> 00:08:38,850 we aren't showing up on that because we are always there ready to support our 356 00:08:38,850 --> 00:08:38,860 are always there ready to support our 357 00:08:38,860 --> 00:08:41,579 are always there ready to support our hardware is ready the folks doing the 358 00:08:41,579 --> 00:08:41,589 hardware is ready the folks doing the 359 00:08:41,589 --> 00:08:43,560 hardware is ready the folks doing the flow at KSC they don't even have to 360 00:08:43,560 --> 00:08:43,570 flow at KSC they don't even have to 361 00:08:43,570 --> 00:08:45,120 flow at KSC they don't even have to think about the ssme because they know 362 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:45,130 think about the ssme because they know 363 00:08:45,130 --> 00:08:46,800 think about the ssme because they know we are going to be there ready to 364 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:46,810 we are going to be there ready to 365 00:08:46,810 --> 00:08:50,730 we are going to be there ready to support yeah we're the ssme we're there 366 00:08:50,730 --> 00:08:50,740 support yeah we're the ssme we're there 367 00:08:50,740 --> 00:08:53,160 support yeah we're the ssme we're there we're supporting our customer and they 368 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:53,170 we're supporting our customer and they 369 00:08:53,170 --> 00:09:00,400 we're supporting our customer and they don't even have to think about us 370 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:00,410 371 00:09:00,410 --> 00:09:02,319 I remember when I was a little kid 372 00:09:02,319 --> 00:09:02,329 I remember when I was a little kid 373 00:09:02,329 --> 00:09:04,660 I remember when I was a little kid probably about 12 years old and I was 374 00:09:04,660 --> 00:09:04,670 probably about 12 years old and I was 375 00:09:04,670 --> 00:09:06,579 probably about 12 years old and I was excited about space program I remember 376 00:09:06,579 --> 00:09:06,589 excited about space program I remember 377 00:09:06,589 --> 00:09:09,129 excited about space program I remember writing a letter to NASA and I didn't I 378 00:09:09,129 --> 00:09:09,139 writing a letter to NASA and I didn't I 379 00:09:09,139 --> 00:09:10,540 writing a letter to NASA and I didn't I don't know what I wrote but i think it 380 00:09:10,540 --> 00:09:10,550 don't know what I wrote but i think it 381 00:09:10,550 --> 00:09:12,910 don't know what I wrote but i think it was along the lines of deer nasa please 382 00:09:12,910 --> 00:09:12,920 was along the lines of deer nasa please 383 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,980 was along the lines of deer nasa please send me stuff and i remember getting an 384 00:09:14,980 --> 00:09:14,990 send me stuff and i remember getting an 385 00:09:14,990 --> 00:09:17,199 send me stuff and i remember getting an envelope back from them a big old brown 386 00:09:17,199 --> 00:09:17,209 envelope back from them a big old brown 387 00:09:17,209 --> 00:09:19,540 envelope back from them a big old brown envelope and for all i knew at that time 388 00:09:19,540 --> 00:09:19,550 envelope and for all i knew at that time 389 00:09:19,550 --> 00:09:22,240 envelope and for all i knew at that time it was sent to me by john glenn himself 390 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:22,250 it was sent to me by john glenn himself 391 00:09:22,250 --> 00:09:24,550 it was sent to me by john glenn himself and i opened it up and it was pictures 392 00:09:24,550 --> 00:09:24,560 and i opened it up and it was pictures 393 00:09:24,560 --> 00:09:29,379 and i opened it up and it was pictures of the apollo 8 program and the decal 394 00:09:29,379 --> 00:09:29,389 of the apollo 8 program and the decal 395 00:09:29,389 --> 00:09:31,449 of the apollo 8 program and the decal about circling the moon and circling the 396 00:09:31,449 --> 00:09:31,459 about circling the moon and circling the 397 00:09:31,459 --> 00:09:33,939 about circling the moon and circling the earth with the big 8 and that's truly 398 00:09:33,939 --> 00:09:33,949 earth with the big 8 and that's truly 399 00:09:33,949 --> 00:09:36,460 earth with the big 8 and that's truly why i got excited about the space 400 00:09:36,460 --> 00:09:36,470 why i got excited about the space 401 00:09:36,470 --> 00:09:38,889 why i got excited about the space program i remember the excitement that i 402 00:09:38,889 --> 00:09:38,899 program i remember the excitement that i 403 00:09:38,899 --> 00:09:40,840 program i remember the excitement that i felt and admittedly i was probably only 404 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:40,850 felt and admittedly i was probably only 405 00:09:40,850 --> 00:09:43,600 felt and admittedly i was probably only 11 or 12 years old but that really had 406 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:43,610 11 or 12 years old but that really had 407 00:09:43,610 --> 00:09:45,579 11 or 12 years old but that really had an impact on me and at that point in 408 00:09:45,579 --> 00:09:45,589 an impact on me and at that point in 409 00:09:45,589 --> 00:09:47,980 an impact on me and at that point in time i decided hey i want to be part of 410 00:09:47,980 --> 00:09:47,990 time i decided hey i want to be part of 411 00:09:47,990 --> 00:09:50,410 time i decided hey i want to be part of something bigger and I thought the space 412 00:09:50,410 --> 00:09:50,420 something bigger and I thought the space 413 00:09:50,420 --> 00:09:52,059 something bigger and I thought the space program you can't get any bigger than 414 00:09:52,059 --> 00:09:52,069 program you can't get any bigger than 415 00:09:52,069 --> 00:10:00,689 program you can't get any bigger than that and that's why I'm here today 416 00:10:00,689 --> 00:10:00,699 417 00:10:00,699 --> 00:10:03,100 starting here at the test stands they 418 00:10:03,100 --> 00:10:03,110 starting here at the test stands they 419 00:10:03,110 --> 00:10:04,509 starting here at the test stands they had to burn stack so you get the burn 420 00:10:04,509 --> 00:10:04,519 had to burn stack so you get the burn 421 00:10:04,519 --> 00:10:07,150 had to burn stack so you get the burn stacks going first and the flame a 422 00:10:07,150 --> 00:10:07,160 stacks going first and the flame a 423 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:08,650 stacks going first and the flame a hydrogen flame that was shoot in the 424 00:10:08,650 --> 00:10:08,660 hydrogen flame that was shoot in the 425 00:10:08,660 --> 00:10:11,319 hydrogen flame that was shoot in the year 5,000 feet a lot of tests were late 426 00:10:11,319 --> 00:10:11,329 year 5,000 feet a lot of tests were late 427 00:10:11,329 --> 00:10:12,790 year 5,000 feet a lot of tests were late at night seemed like he got things done 428 00:10:12,790 --> 00:10:12,800 at night seemed like he got things done 429 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,139 at night seemed like he got things done during the day and tested at night 430 00:10:14,139 --> 00:10:14,149 during the day and tested at night 431 00:10:14,149 --> 00:10:16,929 during the day and tested at night that's historically true for anybody but 432 00:10:16,929 --> 00:10:16,939 that's historically true for anybody but 433 00:10:16,939 --> 00:10:18,189 that's historically true for anybody but you were so close you could feel the 434 00:10:18,189 --> 00:10:18,199 you were so close you could feel the 435 00:10:18,199 --> 00:10:21,610 you were so close you could feel the heat and then right before that the the 436 00:10:21,610 --> 00:10:21,620 heat and then right before that the the 437 00:10:21,620 --> 00:10:23,439 heat and then right before that the the start sequence would be enabled the 438 00:10:23,439 --> 00:10:23,449 start sequence would be enabled the 439 00:10:23,449 --> 00:10:25,059 start sequence would be enabled the valves would start to create ice would 440 00:10:25,059 --> 00:10:25,069 valves would start to create ice would 441 00:10:25,069 --> 00:10:27,100 valves would start to create ice would start to fall and you that that sense of 442 00:10:27,100 --> 00:10:27,110 start to fall and you that that sense of 443 00:10:27,110 --> 00:10:28,900 start to fall and you that that sense of what's going to happen next just built 444 00:10:28,900 --> 00:10:28,910 what's going to happen next just built 445 00:10:28,910 --> 00:10:32,290 what's going to happen next just built and then when the pump lid off the roar 446 00:10:32,290 --> 00:10:32,300 and then when the pump lid off the roar 447 00:10:32,300 --> 00:10:34,210 and then when the pump lid off the roar the sound it was just incredible it to 448 00:10:34,210 --> 00:10:34,220 the sound it was just incredible it to 449 00:10:34,220 --> 00:10:36,819 the sound it was just incredible it to be so close and so much power at the end 450 00:10:36,819 --> 00:10:36,829 be so close and so much power at the end 451 00:10:36,829 --> 00:10:38,079 be so close and so much power at the end of day when I walk away from the Space 452 00:10:38,079 --> 00:10:38,089 of day when I walk away from the Space 453 00:10:38,089 --> 00:10:39,490 of day when I walk away from the Space Shuttle main engine program one of their 454 00:10:39,490 --> 00:10:39,500 Shuttle main engine program one of their 455 00:10:39,500 --> 00:10:41,620 Shuttle main engine program one of their most memorable or rewarding parts of 456 00:10:41,620 --> 00:10:41,630 most memorable or rewarding parts of 457 00:10:41,630 --> 00:10:43,090 most memorable or rewarding parts of working on the program where the people 458 00:10:43,090 --> 00:10:43,100 working on the program where the people 459 00:10:43,100 --> 00:10:44,829 working on the program where the people that they worked with there's not a lot 460 00:10:44,829 --> 00:10:44,839 that they worked with there's not a lot 461 00:10:44,839 --> 00:10:45,910 that they worked with there's not a lot of people in the world that have the 462 00:10:45,910 --> 00:10:45,920 of people in the world that have the 463 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,160 of people in the world that have the opportunity to work on rocket engines 464 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:48,170 opportunity to work on rocket engines 465 00:10:48,170 --> 00:10:50,319 opportunity to work on rocket engines and so you become very close I think 466 00:10:50,319 --> 00:10:50,329 and so you become very close I think 467 00:10:50,329 --> 00:10:52,990 and so you become very close I think when you leave ssme or leave or retire 468 00:10:52,990 --> 00:10:53,000 when you leave ssme or leave or retire 469 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:59,829 when you leave ssme or leave or retire you're going to miss the people the most 470 00:10:59,829 --> 00:10:59,839 471 00:10:59,839 --> 00:11:02,480 always remember one time I decided to 472 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:02,490 always remember one time I decided to 473 00:11:02,490 --> 00:11:04,639 always remember one time I decided to take my wife to a launch and I decided I 474 00:11:04,639 --> 00:11:04,649 take my wife to a launch and I decided I 475 00:11:04,649 --> 00:11:07,100 take my wife to a launch and I decided I would just enjoy the launch with my wife 476 00:11:07,100 --> 00:11:07,110 would just enjoy the launch with my wife 477 00:11:07,110 --> 00:11:11,120 would just enjoy the launch with my wife and so we were at the the viewing area 478 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:11,130 and so we were at the the viewing area 479 00:11:11,130 --> 00:11:14,420 and so we were at the the viewing area on on the Banana River and and I 480 00:11:14,420 --> 00:11:14,430 on on the Banana River and and I 481 00:11:14,430 --> 00:11:16,699 on on the Banana River and and I remember that you know I was on the cell 482 00:11:16,699 --> 00:11:16,709 remember that you know I was on the cell 483 00:11:16,709 --> 00:11:19,180 remember that you know I was on the cell phone constantly with the guys in the 484 00:11:19,180 --> 00:11:19,190 phone constantly with the guys in the 485 00:11:19,190 --> 00:11:22,069 phone constantly with the guys in the launch control room asking them for data 486 00:11:22,069 --> 00:11:22,079 launch control room asking them for data 487 00:11:22,079 --> 00:11:23,840 launch control room asking them for data and they would feed be numbers and ask 488 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:23,850 and they would feed be numbers and ask 489 00:11:23,850 --> 00:11:26,379 and they would feed be numbers and ask questions we went back and forth and 490 00:11:26,379 --> 00:11:26,389 questions we went back and forth and 491 00:11:26,389 --> 00:11:28,670 questions we went back and forth and finally the launch went off right on 492 00:11:28,670 --> 00:11:28,680 finally the launch went off right on 493 00:11:28,680 --> 00:11:31,129 finally the launch went off right on time which was kind of special in those 494 00:11:31,129 --> 00:11:31,139 time which was kind of special in those 495 00:11:31,139 --> 00:11:33,769 time which was kind of special in those days and I always remember we were 496 00:11:33,769 --> 00:11:33,779 days and I always remember we were 497 00:11:33,779 --> 00:11:35,840 days and I always remember we were sitting in this large grandstand of 498 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:35,850 sitting in this large grandstand of 499 00:11:35,850 --> 00:11:39,319 sitting in this large grandstand of people and you know everybody was 500 00:11:39,319 --> 00:11:39,329 people and you know everybody was 501 00:11:39,329 --> 00:11:41,720 people and you know everybody was cheering and yelling as the shuttle took 502 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:41,730 cheering and yelling as the shuttle took 503 00:11:41,730 --> 00:11:43,759 cheering and yelling as the shuttle took off and then when you finally couldn't 504 00:11:43,759 --> 00:11:43,769 off and then when you finally couldn't 505 00:11:43,769 --> 00:11:46,550 off and then when you finally couldn't see it anymore everybody started leaving 506 00:11:46,550 --> 00:11:46,560 see it anymore everybody started leaving 507 00:11:46,560 --> 00:11:49,480 see it anymore everybody started leaving of course we were sitting there still 508 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:49,490 of course we were sitting there still 509 00:11:49,490 --> 00:11:52,430 of course we were sitting there still glued on my cell phone as because the 510 00:11:52,430 --> 00:11:52,440 glued on my cell phone as because the 511 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,920 glued on my cell phone as because the shuttle engines were still firing and by 512 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:54,930 shuttle engines were still firing and by 513 00:11:54,930 --> 00:11:57,949 shuttle engines were still firing and by the time we hit Miko my wife and I were 514 00:11:57,949 --> 00:11:57,959 the time we hit Miko my wife and I were 515 00:11:57,959 --> 00:11:59,750 the time we hit Miko my wife and I were the only one sitting in a grandstand 516 00:11:59,750 --> 00:11:59,760 the only one sitting in a grandstand 517 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,120 the only one sitting in a grandstand everybody else was left and we're 518 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:02,130 everybody else was left and we're 519 00:12:02,130 --> 00:12:04,759 everybody else was left and we're already partying I guess at that time 520 00:12:04,759 --> 00:12:04,769 already partying I guess at that time 521 00:12:04,769 --> 00:12:07,790 already partying I guess at that time but you know is always special those 522 00:12:07,790 --> 00:12:07,800 but you know is always special those 523 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,880 but you know is always special those missions to hit me co and yet the the 524 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:10,890 missions to hit me co and yet the the 525 00:12:10,890 --> 00:12:14,930 missions to hit me co and yet the the thrill of that was just something 526 00:12:14,930 --> 00:12:14,940 thrill of that was just something 527 00:12:14,940 --> 00:12:21,350 thrill of that was just something special and a lot of us got together 528 00:12:21,350 --> 00:12:21,360 special and a lot of us got together 529 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,030 special and a lot of us got together there's my first time actually going to 530 00:12:23,030 --> 00:12:23,040 there's my first time actually going to 531 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,670 there's my first time actually going to stephs I never been a stance before I've 532 00:12:25,670 --> 00:12:25,680 stephs I never been a stance before I've 533 00:12:25,680 --> 00:12:27,439 stephs I never been a stance before I've seen pictures of the test stands and 534 00:12:27,439 --> 00:12:27,449 seen pictures of the test stands and 535 00:12:27,449 --> 00:12:29,480 seen pictures of the test stands and whatnot but I never been on top of them 536 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:29,490 whatnot but I never been on top of them 537 00:12:29,490 --> 00:12:32,870 whatnot but I never been on top of them I decided I was going to make a little 538 00:12:32,870 --> 00:12:32,880 I decided I was going to make a little 539 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,829 I decided I was going to make a little paper airplane just to see how it was 540 00:12:36,829 --> 00:12:36,839 paper airplane just to see how it was 541 00:12:36,839 --> 00:12:39,170 paper airplane just to see how it was stand up to a flying off the top of the 542 00:12:39,170 --> 00:12:39,180 stand up to a flying off the top of the 543 00:12:39,180 --> 00:12:40,939 stand up to a flying off the top of the test and I really didn't tell anybody 544 00:12:40,939 --> 00:12:40,949 test and I really didn't tell anybody 545 00:12:40,949 --> 00:12:43,970 test and I really didn't tell anybody that I was doing it so who knows i 546 00:12:43,970 --> 00:12:43,980 that I was doing it so who knows i 547 00:12:43,980 --> 00:12:45,050 that I was doing it so who knows i probably could have got a little bit of 548 00:12:45,050 --> 00:12:45,060 probably could have got a little bit of 549 00:12:45,060 --> 00:12:47,689 probably could have got a little bit of trouble doing that but when i first got 550 00:12:47,689 --> 00:12:47,699 trouble doing that but when i first got 551 00:12:47,699 --> 00:12:49,910 trouble doing that but when i first got up there I was uh probably like anybody 552 00:12:49,910 --> 00:12:49,920 up there I was uh probably like anybody 553 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:51,350 up there I was uh probably like anybody else I was a little scared because uh 554 00:12:51,350 --> 00:12:51,360 else I was a little scared because uh 555 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,840 else I was a little scared because uh it's a little high up there when nobody 556 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:53,850 it's a little high up there when nobody 557 00:12:53,850 --> 00:12:56,470 it's a little high up there when nobody was looking and I turned to the side 558 00:12:56,470 --> 00:12:56,480 was looking and I turned to the side 559 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,639 was looking and I turned to the side when over there walking like I was 560 00:12:58,639 --> 00:12:58,649 when over there walking like I was 561 00:12:58,649 --> 00:13:00,769 when over there walking like I was looking at the trees and trying to see 562 00:13:00,769 --> 00:13:00,779 looking at the trees and trying to see 563 00:13:00,779 --> 00:13:04,449 looking at the trees and trying to see what else was out there I threw it and 564 00:13:04,449 --> 00:13:04,459 what else was out there I threw it and 565 00:13:04,459 --> 00:13:08,000 what else was out there I threw it and needless to say because of the wind and 566 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:08,010 needless to say because of the wind and 567 00:13:08,010 --> 00:13:08,500 needless to say because of the wind and everything 568 00:13:08,500 --> 00:13:08,510 everything 569 00:13:08,510 --> 00:13:09,910 everything paper airplane didn't fare so well 570 00:13:09,910 --> 00:13:09,920 paper airplane didn't fare so well 571 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,010 paper airplane didn't fare so well that's my little special story dealing 572 00:13:12,010 --> 00:13:12,020 that's my little special story dealing 573 00:13:12,020 --> 00:13:20,320 that's my little special story dealing with SS at me the controller software 574 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:20,330 with SS at me the controller software 575 00:13:20,330 --> 00:13:22,750 with SS at me the controller software lab used to be in Canoga Park California 576 00:13:22,750 --> 00:13:22,760 lab used to be in Canoga Park California 577 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:29,170 lab used to be in Canoga Park California billing for and in 1994 there were there 578 00:13:29,170 --> 00:13:29,180 billing for and in 1994 there were there 579 00:13:29,180 --> 00:13:32,440 billing for and in 1994 there were there was a decision to bring the lab closer 580 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:32,450 was a decision to bring the lab closer 581 00:13:32,450 --> 00:13:34,330 was a decision to bring the lab closer to the Marshall Space Flight Center 582 00:13:34,330 --> 00:13:34,340 to the Marshall Space Flight Center 583 00:13:34,340 --> 00:13:37,990 to the Marshall Space Flight Center customer and there were a number of us 584 00:13:37,990 --> 00:13:38,000 customer and there were a number of us 585 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,220 customer and there were a number of us working in the Huntsville that were 586 00:13:39,220 --> 00:13:39,230 working in the Huntsville that were 587 00:13:39,230 --> 00:13:43,180 working in the Huntsville that were integrated with the canoga park team to 588 00:13:43,180 --> 00:13:43,190 integrated with the canoga park team to 589 00:13:43,190 --> 00:13:46,570 integrated with the canoga park team to facilitate that move crew or three of us 590 00:13:46,570 --> 00:13:46,580 facilitate that move crew or three of us 591 00:13:46,580 --> 00:13:50,200 facilitate that move crew or three of us and Kevin and Bob I myself we moved the 592 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:50,210 and Kevin and Bob I myself we moved the 593 00:13:50,210 --> 00:13:54,640 and Kevin and Bob I myself we moved the lab from canoga park over here with pen 594 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:54,650 lab from canoga park over here with pen 595 00:13:54,650 --> 00:13:57,970 lab from canoga park over here with pen a lot of days underneath the floor I 596 00:13:57,970 --> 00:13:57,980 a lot of days underneath the floor I 597 00:13:57,980 --> 00:14:00,460 a lot of days underneath the floor I remember a funny story because uh Bob 598 00:14:00,460 --> 00:14:00,470 remember a funny story because uh Bob 599 00:14:00,470 --> 00:14:02,320 remember a funny story because uh Bob that we sent him underneath the floor 600 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:02,330 that we sent him underneath the floor 601 00:14:02,330 --> 00:14:05,170 that we sent him underneath the floor and he will disappear the only thing we 602 00:14:05,170 --> 00:14:05,180 and he will disappear the only thing we 603 00:14:05,180 --> 00:14:07,720 and he will disappear the only thing we could see with his feet and then Kevin 604 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:07,730 could see with his feet and then Kevin 605 00:14:07,730 --> 00:14:09,160 could see with his feet and then Kevin and I when he needed to get out we will 606 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:09,170 and I when he needed to get out we will 607 00:14:09,170 --> 00:14:10,540 and I when he needed to get out we will pull him out by his feet out of the 608 00:14:10,540 --> 00:14:10,550 pull him out by his feet out of the 609 00:14:10,550 --> 00:14:13,810 pull him out by his feet out of the floor spent four days underneath the 610 00:14:13,810 --> 00:14:13,820 floor spent four days underneath the 611 00:14:13,820 --> 00:14:16,360 floor spent four days underneath the raised floor with about one foot of 612 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:16,370 raised floor with about one foot of 613 00:14:16,370 --> 00:14:18,160 raised floor with about one foot of clearance you know I go underneath there 614 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:18,170 clearance you know I go underneath there 615 00:14:18,170 --> 00:14:19,780 clearance you know I go underneath there at eight o'clock and come out for lunch 616 00:14:19,780 --> 00:14:19,790 at eight o'clock and come out for lunch 617 00:14:19,790 --> 00:14:22,090 at eight o'clock and come out for lunch and dive back in there again pulling 618 00:14:22,090 --> 00:14:22,100 and dive back in there again pulling 619 00:14:22,100 --> 00:14:25,390 and dive back in there again pulling cables you know all kinds of stuff we 620 00:14:25,390 --> 00:14:25,400 cables you know all kinds of stuff we 621 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,610 cables you know all kinds of stuff we found her teeth there and packing it up 622 00:14:27,610 --> 00:14:27,620 found her teeth there and packing it up 623 00:14:27,620 --> 00:14:30,190 found her teeth there and packing it up and sending it to Huntsville a lot of 624 00:14:30,190 --> 00:14:30,200 and sending it to Huntsville a lot of 625 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,890 and sending it to Huntsville a lot of hard work went into that move and you 626 00:14:32,890 --> 00:14:32,900 hard work went into that move and you 627 00:14:32,900 --> 00:14:34,840 hard work went into that move and you know we worked hard but we had a good 628 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:34,850 know we worked hard but we had a good 629 00:14:34,850 --> 00:14:37,420 know we worked hard but we had a good time doing it and I think we did it very 630 00:14:37,420 --> 00:14:37,430 time doing it and I think we did it very 631 00:14:37,430 --> 00:14:45,610 time doing it and I think we did it very well and that makes me proud I think the 632 00:14:45,610 --> 00:14:45,620 well and that makes me proud I think the 633 00:14:45,620 --> 00:14:48,640 well and that makes me proud I think the most fulfilling piece was watching the 634 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:48,650 most fulfilling piece was watching the 635 00:14:48,650 --> 00:14:50,680 most fulfilling piece was watching the first fuel pump fly I mean but the LOX 636 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:50,690 first fuel pump fly I mean but the LOX 637 00:14:50,690 --> 00:14:53,380 first fuel pump fly I mean but the LOX pump was exciting to but I went up to 638 00:14:53,380 --> 00:14:53,390 pump was exciting to but I went up to 639 00:14:53,390 --> 00:14:56,200 pump was exciting to but I went up to launch for the for the first fuel pump 640 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:56,210 launch for the for the first fuel pump 641 00:14:56,210 --> 00:15:01,690 launch for the for the first fuel pump as STS 104 I believe was and it was a 642 00:15:01,690 --> 00:15:01,700 as STS 104 I believe was and it was a 643 00:15:01,700 --> 00:15:04,990 as STS 104 I believe was and it was a 5am launch so we all went up on the 644 00:15:04,990 --> 00:15:05,000 5am launch so we all went up on the 645 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,170 5am launch so we all went up on the night before and we were lucky enough to 646 00:15:08,170 --> 00:15:08,180 night before and we were lucky enough to 647 00:15:08,180 --> 00:15:09,730 night before and we were lucky enough to take a family member with 648 00:15:09,730 --> 00:15:09,740 take a family member with 649 00:15:09,740 --> 00:15:11,710 take a family member with and I brought my son who was five years 650 00:15:11,710 --> 00:15:11,720 and I brought my son who was five years 651 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,160 and I brought my son who was five years old at the time and we stayed up all 652 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:15,170 old at the time and we stayed up all 653 00:15:15,170 --> 00:15:17,350 old at the time and we stayed up all night and five o'clock in the mornings 654 00:15:17,350 --> 00:15:17,360 night and five o'clock in the mornings 655 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,710 night and five o'clock in the mornings awfully early for a five-year-old but he 656 00:15:20,710 --> 00:15:20,720 awfully early for a five-year-old but he 657 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,110 awfully early for a five-year-old but he saw the shuttle launch had lit up the 658 00:15:23,110 --> 00:15:23,120 saw the shuttle launch had lit up the 659 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,110 saw the shuttle launch had lit up the sky and he said dad that it looks like 660 00:15:26,110 --> 00:15:26,120 sky and he said dad that it looks like 661 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,900 sky and he said dad that it looks like its morning time and then the shuttle 662 00:15:28,900 --> 00:15:28,910 its morning time and then the shuttle 663 00:15:28,910 --> 00:15:33,310 its morning time and then the shuttle left was dark again but he was very 664 00:15:33,310 --> 00:15:33,320 left was dark again but he was very 665 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,620 left was dark again but he was very excited seeing that launch and that 666 00:15:35,620 --> 00:15:35,630 excited seeing that launch and that 667 00:15:35,630 --> 00:15:37,810 excited seeing that launch and that really gave me a lot of pride not only 668 00:15:37,810 --> 00:15:37,820 really gave me a lot of pride not only 669 00:15:37,820 --> 00:15:45,880 really gave me a lot of pride not only in what I do but for my family to one of 670 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:45,890 in what I do but for my family to one of 671 00:15:45,890 --> 00:15:47,560 in what I do but for my family to one of our jobs here with the project support 672 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:47,570 our jobs here with the project support 673 00:15:47,570 --> 00:15:49,270 our jobs here with the project support group is to transfer files back and 674 00:15:49,270 --> 00:15:49,280 group is to transfer files back and 675 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,750 group is to transfer files back and forth when the NASA customer needs data 676 00:15:51,750 --> 00:15:51,760 forth when the NASA customer needs data 677 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,690 forth when the NASA customer needs data whatever since we aren't compliant back 678 00:15:55,690 --> 00:15:55,700 whatever since we aren't compliant back 679 00:15:55,700 --> 00:15:58,060 whatever since we aren't compliant back and forth through our servers we serve 680 00:15:58,060 --> 00:15:58,070 and forth through our servers we serve 681 00:15:58,070 --> 00:16:01,870 and forth through our servers we serve as that conduit so canoga park will put 682 00:16:01,870 --> 00:16:01,880 as that conduit so canoga park will put 683 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,360 as that conduit so canoga park will put or west palm whichever will put their 684 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:04,370 or west palm whichever will put their 685 00:16:04,370 --> 00:16:07,390 or west palm whichever will put their charts in flight ops which is a server 686 00:16:07,390 --> 00:16:07,400 charts in flight ops which is a server 687 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,780 charts in flight ops which is a server that the ssme team uses myself I have a 688 00:16:10,780 --> 00:16:10,790 that the ssme team uses myself I have a 689 00:16:10,790 --> 00:16:14,440 that the ssme team uses myself I have a folder it's called Marcie and over the 690 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:14,450 folder it's called Marcie and over the 691 00:16:14,450 --> 00:16:16,210 folder it's called Marcie and over the years that servers been set out there 692 00:16:16,210 --> 00:16:16,220 years that servers been set out there 693 00:16:16,220 --> 00:16:19,540 years that servers been set out there for years and all of our guys that I 694 00:16:19,540 --> 00:16:19,550 for years and all of our guys that I 695 00:16:19,550 --> 00:16:21,160 for years and all of our guys that I work with it with the different product 696 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:21,170 work with it with the different product 697 00:16:21,170 --> 00:16:23,200 work with it with the different product teams you know they know that that's 698 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:23,210 teams you know they know that that's 699 00:16:23,210 --> 00:16:24,990 teams you know they know that that's where they're supposed to put the files 700 00:16:24,990 --> 00:16:25,000 where they're supposed to put the files 701 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,930 where they're supposed to put the files so at canoga we were sitting out there 702 00:16:28,930 --> 00:16:28,940 so at canoga we were sitting out there 703 00:16:28,940 --> 00:16:31,150 so at canoga we were sitting out there one day when I was visiting with a big 704 00:16:31,150 --> 00:16:31,160 one day when I was visiting with a big 705 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,670 one day when I was visiting with a big group of turbomachinery people and I 706 00:16:33,670 --> 00:16:33,680 group of turbomachinery people and I 707 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,920 group of turbomachinery people and I knew God came up that I had never seen 708 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:35,930 knew God came up that I had never seen 709 00:16:35,930 --> 00:16:40,390 knew God came up that I had never seen before and he has this amazed look on 710 00:16:40,390 --> 00:16:40,400 before and he has this amazed look on 711 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:44,290 before and he has this amazed look on his face like wait a minute Marci as in 712 00:16:44,290 --> 00:16:44,300 his face like wait a minute Marci as in 713 00:16:44,300 --> 00:16:47,680 his face like wait a minute Marci as in the Marcy folder he said I thought that 714 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:47,690 the Marcy folder he said I thought that 715 00:16:47,690 --> 00:16:49,450 the Marcy folder he said I thought that was not a real person eats that I 716 00:16:49,450 --> 00:16:49,460 was not a real person eats that I 717 00:16:49,460 --> 00:16:51,220 was not a real person eats that I thought that was a folder I had no idea 718 00:16:51,220 --> 00:16:51,230 thought that was a folder I had no idea 719 00:16:51,230 --> 00:16:52,990 thought that was a folder I had no idea there was somebody who actually took 720 00:16:52,990 --> 00:16:53,000 there was somebody who actually took 721 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:59,070 there was somebody who actually took care of that that that was your folder 722 00:16:59,070 --> 00:16:59,080 723 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,590 I think the strangest thing I've ever 724 00:17:01,590 --> 00:17:01,600 I think the strangest thing I've ever 725 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,780 I think the strangest thing I've ever had to do on the program was actually 726 00:17:03,780 --> 00:17:03,790 had to do on the program was actually 727 00:17:03,790 --> 00:17:05,880 had to do on the program was actually non concur with a change that I wrote 728 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:05,890 non concur with a change that I wrote 729 00:17:05,890 --> 00:17:09,120 non concur with a change that I wrote and the way that came down was when I 730 00:17:09,120 --> 00:17:09,130 and the way that came down was when I 731 00:17:09,130 --> 00:17:11,699 and the way that came down was when I was at the Cape the engineers up here 732 00:17:11,699 --> 00:17:11,709 was at the Cape the engineers up here 733 00:17:11,709 --> 00:17:13,620 was at the Cape the engineers up here called me and told me that we had got an 734 00:17:13,620 --> 00:17:13,630 called me and told me that we had got an 735 00:17:13,630 --> 00:17:15,390 called me and told me that we had got an action from the program to change a 736 00:17:15,390 --> 00:17:15,400 action from the program to change a 737 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,880 action from the program to change a requirement well I immediately knew that 738 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:17,890 requirement well I immediately knew that 739 00:17:17,890 --> 00:17:20,550 requirement well I immediately knew that whoever gave us the action did not even 740 00:17:20,550 --> 00:17:20,560 whoever gave us the action did not even 741 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,800 whoever gave us the action did not even understand the test so I told him that 742 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:22,810 understand the test so I told him that 743 00:17:22,810 --> 00:17:25,470 understand the test so I told him that that we can't do we can't complete that 744 00:17:25,470 --> 00:17:25,480 that we can't do we can't complete that 745 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,840 that we can't do we can't complete that action so I told them I would call back 746 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:27,850 action so I told them I would call back 747 00:17:27,850 --> 00:17:30,510 action so I told them I would call back to the CM guy back in Houston and 748 00:17:30,510 --> 00:17:30,520 to the CM guy back in Houston and 749 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,700 to the CM guy back in Houston and telling that that action wasn't when it 750 00:17:32,700 --> 00:17:32,710 telling that that action wasn't when it 751 00:17:32,710 --> 00:17:34,560 telling that that action wasn't when it needs to be withdrawn because it wasn't 752 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:34,570 needs to be withdrawn because it wasn't 753 00:17:34,570 --> 00:17:37,500 needs to be withdrawn because it wasn't appropriate so I called the JSC guy and 754 00:17:37,500 --> 00:17:37,510 appropriate so I called the JSC guy and 755 00:17:37,510 --> 00:17:39,090 appropriate so I called the JSC guy and he said they don't have a mechanism for 756 00:17:39,090 --> 00:17:39,100 he said they don't have a mechanism for 757 00:17:39,100 --> 00:17:41,640 he said they don't have a mechanism for withdrawing actions and so he said my 758 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:41,650 withdrawing actions and so he said my 759 00:17:41,650 --> 00:17:43,830 withdrawing actions and so he said my only option was to submit the change and 760 00:17:43,830 --> 00:17:43,840 only option was to submit the change and 761 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,720 only option was to submit the change and if I didn't agree with it non concur 762 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:45,730 if I didn't agree with it non concur 763 00:17:45,730 --> 00:17:48,150 if I didn't agree with it non concur which I did I roved the change and it 764 00:17:48,150 --> 00:17:48,160 which I did I roved the change and it 765 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,310 which I did I roved the change and it went through the change process then i 766 00:17:50,310 --> 00:17:50,320 went through the change process then i 767 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,140 went through the change process then i wrote a non concur to the change that i 768 00:17:52,140 --> 00:17:52,150 wrote a non concur to the change that i 769 00:17:52,150 --> 00:17:54,240 wrote a non concur to the change that i wrote it went to the board and was 770 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:54,250 wrote it went to the board and was 771 00:17:54,250 --> 00:17:56,970 wrote it went to the board and was rejected because we didn't concur with 772 00:17:56,970 --> 00:17:56,980 rejected because we didn't concur with 773 00:17:56,980 --> 00:17:59,010 rejected because we didn't concur with it and that closed the action and caused 774 00:17:59,010 --> 00:17:59,020 it and that closed the action and caused 775 00:17:59,020 --> 00:18:08,190 it and that closed the action and caused this twitch the shuttle is hugely 776 00:18:08,190 --> 00:18:08,200 this twitch the shuttle is hugely 777 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,050 this twitch the shuttle is hugely important to the space program the space 778 00:18:10,050 --> 00:18:10,060 important to the space program the space 779 00:18:10,060 --> 00:18:12,300 important to the space program the space program is one of America's crown jewels 780 00:18:12,300 --> 00:18:12,310 program is one of America's crown jewels 781 00:18:12,310 --> 00:18:15,650 program is one of America's crown jewels and the shuttle is the centerpiece of it 782 00:18:15,650 --> 00:18:15,660 and the shuttle is the centerpiece of it 783 00:18:15,660 --> 00:18:18,210 and the shuttle is the centerpiece of it two things really stick out in my mind 784 00:18:18,210 --> 00:18:18,220 two things really stick out in my mind 785 00:18:18,220 --> 00:18:21,450 two things really stick out in my mind that that I just absolutely love number 786 00:18:21,450 --> 00:18:21,460 that that I just absolutely love number 787 00:18:21,460 --> 00:18:23,670 that that I just absolutely love number one is seeing a launch that's a very 788 00:18:23,670 --> 00:18:23,680 one is seeing a launch that's a very 789 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,340 one is seeing a launch that's a very very moving experience and until you 790 00:18:26,340 --> 00:18:26,350 very moving experience and until you 791 00:18:26,350 --> 00:18:28,020 very moving experience and until you have experienced it you can't really 792 00:18:28,020 --> 00:18:28,030 have experienced it you can't really 793 00:18:28,030 --> 00:18:29,970 have experienced it you can't really describe it there's nothing really 794 00:18:29,970 --> 00:18:29,980 describe it there's nothing really 795 00:18:29,980 --> 00:18:32,820 describe it there's nothing really prepares you for that experience the 796 00:18:32,820 --> 00:18:32,830 prepares you for that experience the 797 00:18:32,830 --> 00:18:36,210 prepares you for that experience the other thing is in my family we like to 798 00:18:36,210 --> 00:18:36,220 other thing is in my family we like to 799 00:18:36,220 --> 00:18:38,100 other thing is in my family we like to look on the website for when the space 800 00:18:38,100 --> 00:18:38,110 look on the website for when the space 801 00:18:38,110 --> 00:18:40,050 look on the website for when the space station is going to pass over again and 802 00:18:40,050 --> 00:18:40,060 station is going to pass over again and 803 00:18:40,060 --> 00:18:42,450 station is going to pass over again and I take my kids outside and we look at 804 00:18:42,450 --> 00:18:42,460 I take my kids outside and we look at 805 00:18:42,460 --> 00:18:45,660 I take my kids outside and we look at the space station go by and to see the 806 00:18:45,660 --> 00:18:45,670 the space station go by and to see the 807 00:18:45,670 --> 00:18:47,640 the space station go by and to see the brightest star in the night sky cross 808 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:47,650 brightest star in the night sky cross 809 00:18:47,650 --> 00:18:50,700 brightest star in the night sky cross over and you can tell your children that 810 00:18:50,700 --> 00:18:50,710 over and you can tell your children that 811 00:18:50,710 --> 00:18:52,830 over and you can tell your children that the people that you worked with helped 812 00:18:52,830 --> 00:18:52,840 the people that you worked with helped 813 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,530 the people that you worked with helped put it there that's quite special very 814 00:18:55,530 --> 00:18:55,540 put it there that's quite special very 815 00:18:55,540 --> 00:19:01,190 put it there that's quite special very very gratifying 816 00:19:01,190 --> 00:19:01,200 817 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:07,019 in October I was at a suppliers it was 818 00:19:07,019 --> 00:19:07,029 in October I was at a suppliers it was 819 00:19:07,029 --> 00:19:10,169 in October I was at a suppliers it was one of his open house events and I think 820 00:19:10,169 --> 00:19:10,179 one of his open house events and I think 821 00:19:10,179 --> 00:19:12,449 one of his open house events and I think was a 20 year celebration and it was the 822 00:19:12,449 --> 00:19:12,459 was a 20 year celebration and it was the 823 00:19:12,459 --> 00:19:13,619 was a 20 year celebration and it was the first time I was getting the opportunity 824 00:19:13,619 --> 00:19:13,629 first time I was getting the opportunity 825 00:19:13,629 --> 00:19:15,899 first time I was getting the opportunity to go and be with an astronaut and the 826 00:19:15,899 --> 00:19:15,909 to go and be with an astronaut and the 827 00:19:15,909 --> 00:19:20,149 to go and be with an astronaut and the astronaut was Robert hoot Gibson and I 828 00:19:20,149 --> 00:19:20,159 astronaut was Robert hoot Gibson and I 829 00:19:20,159 --> 00:19:23,009 astronaut was Robert hoot Gibson and I remember it very well because I when I 830 00:19:23,009 --> 00:19:23,019 remember it very well because I when I 831 00:19:23,019 --> 00:19:24,930 remember it very well because I when I showed up I had a lot of anticipation 832 00:19:24,930 --> 00:19:24,940 showed up I had a lot of anticipation 833 00:19:24,940 --> 00:19:26,999 showed up I had a lot of anticipation and being able to meet him talk to him 834 00:19:26,999 --> 00:19:27,009 and being able to meet him talk to him 835 00:19:27,009 --> 00:19:30,389 and being able to meet him talk to him get to know him and I remember that when 836 00:19:30,389 --> 00:19:30,399 get to know him and I remember that when 837 00:19:30,399 --> 00:19:33,060 get to know him and I remember that when I was introduced we had a quick little 838 00:19:33,060 --> 00:19:33,070 I was introduced we had a quick little 839 00:19:33,070 --> 00:19:35,310 I was introduced we had a quick little conversation and then he said well I'll 840 00:19:35,310 --> 00:19:35,320 conversation and then he said well I'll 841 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:36,539 conversation and then he said well I'll get back to you and talk to you later 842 00:19:36,539 --> 00:19:36,549 get back to you and talk to you later 843 00:19:36,549 --> 00:19:39,810 get back to you and talk to you later well later never came because of the 844 00:19:39,810 --> 00:19:39,820 well later never came because of the 845 00:19:39,820 --> 00:19:41,699 well later never came because of the fact that we were so busy with the 846 00:19:41,699 --> 00:19:41,709 fact that we were so busy with the 847 00:19:41,709 --> 00:19:43,949 fact that we were so busy with the events and everything so after 848 00:19:43,949 --> 00:19:43,959 events and everything so after 849 00:19:43,959 --> 00:19:45,239 events and everything so after everything was over I went back to the 850 00:19:45,239 --> 00:19:45,249 everything was over I went back to the 851 00:19:45,249 --> 00:19:47,159 everything was over I went back to the hotel and I thought jeez I would have 852 00:19:47,159 --> 00:19:47,169 hotel and I thought jeez I would have 853 00:19:47,169 --> 00:19:49,409 hotel and I thought jeez I would have loved to have talked to him in shortly 854 00:19:49,409 --> 00:19:49,419 loved to have talked to him in shortly 855 00:19:49,419 --> 00:19:52,079 loved to have talked to him in shortly thereafter the phone rang and I picked 856 00:19:52,079 --> 00:19:52,089 thereafter the phone rang and I picked 857 00:19:52,089 --> 00:19:54,329 thereafter the phone rang and I picked it up and he said Lee and I said yeah I 858 00:19:54,329 --> 00:19:54,339 it up and he said Lee and I said yeah I 859 00:19:54,339 --> 00:19:56,639 it up and he said Lee and I said yeah I said this is hoot hoot Gibson he says 860 00:19:56,639 --> 00:19:56,649 said this is hoot hoot Gibson he says 861 00:19:56,649 --> 00:19:58,199 said this is hoot hoot Gibson he says how about meeting me downstairs in the 862 00:19:58,199 --> 00:19:58,209 how about meeting me downstairs in the 863 00:19:58,209 --> 00:20:00,989 how about meeting me downstairs in the lounge and have a couple beers and i 864 00:20:00,989 --> 00:20:00,999 lounge and have a couple beers and i 865 00:20:00,999 --> 00:20:02,459 lounge and have a couple beers and i thought god what a great thing to have 866 00:20:02,459 --> 00:20:02,469 thought god what a great thing to have 867 00:20:02,469 --> 00:20:04,979 thought god what a great thing to have happen he showed me he's a real person 868 00:20:04,979 --> 00:20:04,989 happen he showed me he's a real person 869 00:20:04,989 --> 00:20:07,049 happen he showed me he's a real person he was talking about his family his 870 00:20:07,049 --> 00:20:07,059 he was talking about his family his 871 00:20:07,059 --> 00:20:10,019 he was talking about his family his goals in life what he wanted and I think 872 00:20:10,019 --> 00:20:10,029 goals in life what he wanted and I think 873 00:20:10,029 --> 00:20:11,879 goals in life what he wanted and I think from that I took the fact that this is 874 00:20:11,879 --> 00:20:11,889 from that I took the fact that this is 875 00:20:11,889 --> 00:20:14,190 from that I took the fact that this is really for the astronauts and we need to 876 00:20:14,190 --> 00:20:14,200 really for the astronauts and we need to 877 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,379 really for the astronauts and we need to be very much aware of bringing them back 878 00:20:16,379 --> 00:20:16,389 be very much aware of bringing them back 879 00:20:16,389 --> 00:20:19,649 be very much aware of bringing them back safely for their families